Sunday, March 19, 2006

I detest manga and animé. But I LOVE Japanese art. Here are some wonderful pieces of real folk art for you pleasure.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

These are so beautiful.

I detest that Manga Anime stuff as well.

Back in college we had this really great Polish teacher who would allow us to be free spirits.
I really liked her, she had such a distinct slavic accent.
We'd have a project, and she didn't mind if we'd return on the due date. You can imagine what students came up with.
One student in particular, Chi Wuk Chung, decided to unveil his project on the due date. He unwrapped the huge oil painting for us all to find a Manga styled character , painted in OILS no less.

In her strong accent Sonja said, "Jappppannamation, I hahhte Jappppanamation! " I still cry of laugher when thinking of this.

Chi Wuk is now in California studying animation, he actually draws quite well.

2:17 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

¿Miyazaki and Takahata included?
I'm an animation student and I can't see no reason to reject all anime and manga. There are plenty of wonderfull works out there.

I agree there's a lot of bad japanese animation, but that happends with any kind of art form; 90% of everything is usually crap.

2:49 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm also not a big fan of manga and anime. What's the point in it? :( All the characters only fit about 5 different archetypes and everybody looks the same but with different hair. I just don't get where the fascination in it stems from.

Traditional Asian culture however, now that's something different. Reminded me of this post I saw the other day.

3:05 pm  
Blogger Oscar Grillo said...

Dear Szy..Unfortunately for me, Miazaky became unbearably tedious. His graphic style is so unadventurous that stopped being attractive...If you revise his filmography of the last twenty years will realise that he has been doing the same film. Compare Disney's "Steamboat Willie" from 1929 to "Pinocchio" from 1939 and you'll understand what I am saying

4:42 pm  
Blogger Oscar Grillo said...

Yeah, Sam...Very few animators nowadays distinguish between "Stereotypical" and "Archetypal"...

4:45 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's true Mizayaki films doesn't have evolved too much visually (althought technically they do) but it's not only visuals what make a movie.

I think there's room for visual innovation in japanese animation. Recently I've been watching "Mindgame", an interesting mix of photograph and hand-drawn animation as well as "My neighbors the Yamadas" which presents a fresh and (deceptively) simple animation style.

I belive that developing new and appealing characters and backgrounds is as important as creating solid plots and new ways of story telling. In that sense, japanese animation may be weaker in graphics but much more daring about it's plots.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not a anime fanatical. It's just that I try to learn from anything, be it Disney cartoons (which I love), japanese, european or whatever animation.

¡Saludos! :)

5:32 pm  
Blogger Taranta said...

Oscar mañana le doy un poco de manija por la radio, me matas, justo ayer estaba leyendo Historias en la palma de la mano de Kawabata, estudie cuatro años japones, anteanoche lleve a mis amigos Taihei Kobayashi y Yuko Eguchi (maestros de tango en japon hace 20 años) a escuchar a Colangelo cuarteto. Amo el arte japones que en epocas anteriores a la guerra era una forma de vivir artisticamente. Todo era arte. Despues vino la invasión yanqui pero aun quedan vestigios y memoria de estas maravillosas obras.

5:43 pm  
Blogger Oscar Grillo said...

I couldn't dissent with your arguments about substance, Szy..You are absolutely correct..Undeniably the Japanese are very skillful, but I am and old hand and I am tired of repetitive formulas..I am looking forward to new visions and nowadays in art there are very few revolutionary graphic conceptions compared to those explorations of the beginning of the twentieth century...Dont forget that Cubism and Futurism expressed very well the age of machinery and the horrors of the First World War...Technology alone is not the answer. We need fresh eyes to understand and narrate this new millennium. The Japanese formula or the banal explorations of Dreamworks are not going to help us.

5:46 pm  
Blogger A. Riabovitchev said...

I Always with pleasure look the Asian art! Always!

6:14 pm  
Blogger Deluria said...

I think there's lots of magic in Miyazaki's films. Actually i would like to live in that personal world he has made.

6:45 pm  
Blogger Oscar Grillo said...

Well...If magic is what you're after, David Copperfield is your man...I think that Miazaki is a false magician using a lot of calculated low blows..I think that often he is not even himself sure to where he is going script wise and then he appeal to "magic". I find much more "magic" and honesty in films like "Tale of Tales" by Norstein or "Street of Crocodiles" by the Quay Bros or "Ryan" by Chris Landreth...and all these films use extraordinary narrative and aesthetics forms instead of pleasing formulas.

7:07 pm  
Blogger Elliot Cowan said...

Szy - If I may butt into Oscars comments.
Fact is you'll learn all there is aesthitically to know about manga and anime in about 3 and a half minutes (perhaps less if you are an astute observer).
Culturally it will take you a lifetime to dissect these films as I think it's only the Japanese who understand what the hell they are about.

8:14 pm  
Blogger Deluria said...

x-DDD unfortunately or not, i'm far away from Claudia Schiffer's sex appeal so i guess David is unreachable for me ;-)

I don't know the films you mention (except Quay Bros, which i like). I'll try to look for them. Sure they'll be enjoyable if you say so.

8:20 pm  
Blogger limbolo said...

I dont see enough Anime to have an opinion about it. But I have seen most of Myazaki's films and I am sure that he is a genius.
Totoro is not the same movie as Spirited Away although you can see a common thread running from the earlier film to the later one. Most significant artists have a singular focus in their work: Look at Picasso, listen to Charlie Parker.
Myazaki has found a graphic language that enables him to speak. That it contains elements of kitsch only makes it all the more uncanny.
But he is not benefitting, as an artist, from all this world-wide attention and celebrity. HOWL seemed to me diffuse: a clear drop in quality.
Perhaps it's time he took that long-earned rest he's been promising himself.

12:08 am  

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